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#1 Travis Uchonela

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 03:44 PM

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#2 Badass

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:01 PM

Sov is still useless


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:05 PM

RIP capitals


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:11 PM

they really need to buff sov to compensate 

 

+20% mining yield per industry index
+20% anomaly cash yield per military index

 

is what i said on eveo

 

i mean why bother holding sov when its this gay when u can just level 4/mine in highsec for more isk

wow eveo format copy pasted cool

but yeah these are stupid changes with no other compensation

 

and supers are fuckin d e d DEAD



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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:14 PM

not impressed until they fix ship balance


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#6 Travis Uchonela

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:15 PM

I don't like this prime time thing. You can't even reinforce RUS shit outside of RUS time. There's going to be even less stuff to fight over in late ustz than previously.

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:15 PM

Also hot damn I'm glad I haven't bought a super yet.

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:17 PM

I don't like this prime time thing. You can't even reinforce RUS shit outside of RUS time. There's going to be even less stuff to fight over in late ustz than previously.

 

yeah that was beyond dumb

 

literally ruining my immersion


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:39 PM

holy shit prime time is fucking dumb

 

like wow i am actually impressed at how dumb it is


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:40 PM

The fact that you can scattergun a cloud of retards in ceptors with sov lasers is fucking hilarious.  Goonies have how many sov structures?  Send three ceptors at each of them.  No way they can defend every single one.

 

That said, this overall just looks like Phoebe.  Let's take something and make it really fucking annoying and tedious and gay, but not actually offer any incentive to use it.  Phoebe made caps a pain in the dick but people still use them because you have to.  These changes are going to make holding sov really fucking annoying but as the lone Irishman said, there's still little reason to actually bother holding space.  Just live in low sec and farm tears from the sov blob.

 

Oh and roam gate to gate in disco supers because fuck if they're good for anything else anymore.


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:54 PM

Holy shit.

All I can say is that I'm glad I trained my 6 accounts all into interceptors.
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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:56 PM

Also lol I hope you guys sold your supers and titans back at the jump range nerf because now hahhahahhahahhahahahahhahahaha.

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 04:57 PM

I almost had faith in CCP. Capitals are dead except for like triage. Battleships are too immobile for these constellation fights.

At least pos's are still beyond shit.

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 05:23 PM

R I P my fucking super


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 05:26 PM

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 05:28 PM

once again i was right

 

everyone told me to cool my jets the jump fatigue thing was a good thing for eve and the sov change is gonna follow up and its gonna be a wonderland for PVP

 

FUCKING LOL


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 05:31 PM

It might be a wonderland for pvp, but not capital ship pvp
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Posted 03 March 2015 - 05:32 PM

Which was Fozzie's plan I think
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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:00 PM

its not

 

its just more blob defense and a big fuck you to those who have sunk the most time and effort into this game


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:03 PM

It fucks supers but honestly this will create a field day for nomads once it goes live.  Have people scattergun with sov lasers and then camp shit with cloaky cynos and hammer anybody who tries to defend their shit.  There should be a couple months of tear extraction. 

 

Does suck that CCP's approach to removing blobs is "Let's make the game really annoying so people won't want to move far or be in big groups because to do so is just no fun to play." 


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:07 PM

well no

 

so you can only have 1 of these mods active on a structure at a time per side

 

so one person (say the FC) from the defender and one from an attacker alliance

 

it doesn't DIRECTLY help the blobs but i can see some form of stalingrad "pick up the rifle from the man in front of you when he dies" sort of thing where when one dude with the active link dies another activates it

 

it's a big fuck you to people like us who use capitals though because there's a 400% increase to the link cycle time if it's fit on a capital, and the links only start working at the end of the cycle, meaning if the baboon or goon ibis finishes his cycle before your nyx does welp gg

 

i do like that it takes place over multiple systems/a constellation though

 

this prime time thing is pretty dumb


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:07 PM

Bought a super toon last year. Totally worthless now

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:08 PM

in fact if you activate more than one link per "side" on a structure it just stops every bit of progress so you can use spies to fuck with it too


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:09 PM

i dont 100% hate this but considering they just fucked supers i'm a bit less than impressed


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:09 PM

no this makes it incredibly easy for the cfc to defend

 

1. set timers in a rolling fashion from fountain to tenal in 4 hour windows which allows you to move the blob straight up through gates with no problems

2. take vulnerable border sov and put it in gsf control so valued allies don't fuck it up and lose it

3. sound the horn of goondor

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5. win eve

 

no one could contest in tenal while you're defending fountain since your timers are set differently

no one can move quickly to find weak points in your massive sov structure because you've got fun fatigue

capitals have no effect in taking sov vs a bunch of stalingrad stabbed ceptors that orbit the beacon


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:15 PM

plus /r/eve likes it

 

you know its bad then


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:26 PM

Ccp had 2 years to think of something and this is the garbage they came up with

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:46 PM

But you're going to be able to awox sov which should be fucking hilarious


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:47 PM

"4 hour timer is a bad idea making virtual Berlin Walls between players in the same alliance. I'd go so far as to say it was encouraging nationalism and is borderline-racist."

 

I'd say this was some kind of jest but it's by a Brave member



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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:49 PM

The next step is a big super nerf, despite this making them useless. I suspect this will be their excuse to eliminate ewar immunity under the guise that even with the longer timers it will be hard to stop supers with these link thingies.

I hope these link things have huge cap use or mass penalties. If sov war really ends up bein about chasing over propped inties around this system will be way worse.

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 06:58 PM

Maybe they will let them dock now
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Posted 03 March 2015 - 07:03 PM

the whole thing is actually pathetic and i would be embarrassed if I worked at CCP and had anything to do with this


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 07:07 PM

maybe they want to drive people to hisec so they can carebear in peace and pay their subscription fees


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 07:09 PM

They want to have sov be accessible by small groups, but if this actually makes supers useless then why even hold sov? The main reason to hold sov was to build supers.
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Posted 03 March 2015 - 07:36 PM

Why even play eve?

Because i have no friends :'((((

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 07:39 PM


It's happening.

 



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Posted 03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM

So is this better or worse than POS sov?
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Posted 03 March 2015 - 07:49 PM

someone tl;dr this thing for me. i mean i already know it's shit because jump fatigue is still a thing.


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM

the mechanics behind the link modules canceling each other out smacks of pos sov to begin with, just done a little differently


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 07:53 PM

someone tl;dr this thing for me. i mean i already know it's shit because jump fatigue is still a thing.


Faction warfare with highslot mods to turn the timer on.
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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:01 PM

someone tl;dr this thing for me. i mean i already know it's shit because jump fatigue is still a thing.

 

Instead of shooting structures you flip stuff with a sov laser.


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:27 PM

Also hot damn I'm glad I haven't bought a super yet.

 

I just bought mine a little over a month ago.   :shepicide:


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:33 PM

Actually the faction warfare system is more fun than this
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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:34 PM

So what is their reasoning behind the scaling sov laser cycle time? Other than making inties better than titans.

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:36 PM

holy shit this is awful


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:36 PM

just shoot your mining laser with 2000 dudes at this thing and it will do stuff wow fun fun fun


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:39 PM

They don't stack though. Only need one and if one from each of two different sides is activated then the timer stops.
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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:39 PM

the T2 version can fire from 250km away gfgf


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Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:54 PM

the T2 version can fire from 250km away gfgf


That's way too far I think. Max it at 100.

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