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#1 leetcheese

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:09 PM

No preamble for this. Goonswarm is forming a new Reddit-based membercorp. This new membercorp, KarmaFleet, will be led by ex-Brave member Markonius Porkbutte.

History

For some of you, TEST has always been an enemy. It wasn't always so.

Our first run-in with a Reddit-based alliance was with TEST back in 2010. They were a bunch of :shobon: newbies and we ended up first murdering and then befriending them since we love newbies. TEST grew while we rebuilt Goonswarm, and they were staunch allies and hilarious friends right up until they left us in 2012 to seek their own fortune and because fuck you dad. Though we saw TEST as equals traveling a similar path that Goonfleet of old did, they saw Goonswarm as something rather different. One of their directors was friends with the alliance leader of BCA, and he spent years sowing mistrust in the upper levels of TEST management. This mistrust didn't initially make it to line members in Goonswarm or TEST, so much of the period between TEST's departure from Dek and the Fountain invasion appeared to make very little sense. At any rate, the problem was never TEST line members or newbies. The problem was insane leadership (The Madness of Montolio) creating self-fulfilling prophecies. We collectively put off attacking TEST as long as we did because we still had hopes of patching up that relationship, being space buds, and derping around EVE causing havoc.

Brave Newbies followed a parallel evolution of relations. They were formed following the Battle of Asakai, but our first serious contact was in Syndicate courtesy of OMEGA and Space Violence. They built up a relationship that we tried to leverage officially via diplomatic channels, but without much success. We still loved newbies and were quite keen on establishing relations, but before we could manage to overcome some other issues, BRAVE was hired away by Northern Coalition. to clear out and occupy Catch. NC., in addition to being hilarious deal-breaking enemies of ours, are not in the least new-player friendly. For NC., BRAVE represented a meat shield against a potential Russian resurgence and potential content for them and their allies in Pandemic Legion. NC. would alternatively kill and help, farm and poach.

In an effort to hopefully break Brave free from this endless cycle of newbie abuse, we offered to relocate them to Delve gratis, no strings attached. By way of backchannels, this information made it back to NC., who then swiftly convinced Brave that Delve was not in their best interests and that they should stay put right where they were. NC. then snagged Querious when we left and installed their allies Darkness and Kadeshi in that space, keeping their content farm and meat shield in place in Catch. Brave leadership appeared none the wiser and did not seem to grasp how they had again been played.

Present

Post Phoebe, Brave has been engaged in a long running skirmish with PL. I say skirmish because PL had no intention of killing Brave and were instead using Brave as content to sharpen their fleet and have some fun. Killing off Brave accidentally was likely more of a concern than anything else. The one time Brave pinned PL's super fleet down and looked like they were going to strike a heavy blow, NC. showed up to bail PL out. A few weeks later, NC. fleet commander Travis Musgrat blackmailed Brave into fighting against the Russians in the north to save a reinforced SCAA that PL had reinforced. It's a complicated web, but the loyalties and motivations here should be pretty obvious.

But not, apparently, to Brave leadership. Because the greatest irony of all is that PL was forced to pull out of Catch due to the same Russians that now threatened to topple X.I.X's space empire. If the Russian threat presented by Solar is defeated, PL will once again be free to hit Brave space, and Brave will have helped them do so.  

We've been watching this from our fortress in the West with increasing frustration. Why would such a force of people so easily allow themselves to be manipulated? Did they have no dignity? Why wouldn't they talk to us? Why did they keep allowing their frenemies to steal talent and beat on them?

Much in the way TEST had before, the value and force of Brave's line membership was diluted and blunted by ineffective leadership. Superstars were drummed out, hard calls remained unmade. The mob upvoted, the mob downvoted, and the leadership remains too petrified to act. Brave could be and should be so much more.

Future

This is why we're founding KarmaFleet. We have the institutional knowledge to keep newbies from turning into bitter vets who abscond with riches and join Black Legion. There's nowhere to 'graduate' to for newbies in the Swarm, nowhere that holds newbies in such high regard and is at the core of a powerful space empire. Nowhere that is as much fun.

The historic weakness of Reddit-run alliances is the alliance leadership. We've already solved that. Mittani doesn't give a shit about upvotes. No wibbles on the hard calls. No fucking councils. KarmaFleet will distill everything about Brave that I admired, and strip out all the worthless bits.

To that end, former Brave Intelligence Head, Brave Masterclass organizer, propaganda and video maker, and newbie mentor Markonius Porkbutte is being brought in to do what he does best. OMEGA has already been of significant help to him, and I strongly urge you to offer him your help as well if you can. In addition to spinning up KarmaFleet, Porkbutte is going to play a key role across the board in revamping our hopelessly broken mentor system.

There will be spies. There will be bad posts. There will be awoxing. There will be derpery of the highest order. But more importantly, there will be newbies. Young, impressionable, high-energy newbies. Newbies that shouldn't have to suffer under awful alliance management, proceed to burn out, and then join our enemies. No more Montolios to sabotage our relationship with line members. No more dithering councils.

KarmaFleet is a reincarnation we can work with.

 

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/Karmafleet


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#2 leetcheese

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:09 PM

can't wait to awox


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#3 jezza

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:12 PM

I see no way this will end poorly


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#4 Madz Negro

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:13 PM

Goons love their words.

 

Gotta say though, pretty solid troll. The TEST reactions should be p great.


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#5 Doink9731

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:14 PM

Sock puppet activate!



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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:15 PM

Corporation Rules - AKA: How to not be kicked from Corp

Things that will get your removed from corp:

  • Bringing shame on the corporation.


#7 Madz Negro

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:16 PM

Why would such a force of people so easily allow themselves to be manipulated?

 

GOON never manipulates

GOON is truth

GOON is life


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#8 Richter Belmont

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:30 PM

Sock puppet activate!


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#9 bdd

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:38 PM

wish i could play eve again :C


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#10 Talbrys Narentyr

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:48 PM

inb4 "didn't want those members anyway"


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#11 jezza

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:51 PM

I think TEST is taking the "we'll win" approach

 

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#12 Madz Negro

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:52 PM

Brave thread begins:

 

http://www.reddit.co..._brave_friends/


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#13 jezza

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 06:55 PM

poach thread #2 in as many days


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#14 Ingen

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 07:12 PM

inb4 corp thefts


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Posted 15 January 2015 - 07:17 PM

Scrubs fighting over who gets the dregs of humanity 


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Posted 15 January 2015 - 07:23 PM

implying redditors aren't the cream of the crop


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#17 Madz Negro

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 07:29 PM

Does anyone still have those SA banner ads from GSF bashing on reddit? I feel like the new corp could use those

 

E: found them

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#18 jezza

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 07:32 PM

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fixed


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Posted 15 January 2015 - 07:34 PM

When 40k neckbeards aren't enough simply turn to reddit.



#20 Madz Negro

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 07:34 PM

thanks m8, didn't know you could do that with the imgur webms


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Posted 15 January 2015 - 08:06 PM

Reddit and goons, two terrible tastes that go even worse together.



#22 Talbrys Narentyr

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 08:43 PM

With the backing of the Goonswarm Federation we strive to do what BNI has done: create a path for newbies to get to nullsec. As an added benefit, newbies will know who their enemies are

 

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#23 jezza

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 08:57 PM

THE QUALITY POSTING

 

http://www.reddit.co...ne_dont_forget/


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#24 ƶ ʌ ɴ ᴋ ʏ

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 10:06 PM

this cant be real


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#25 Travis Uchonela

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 10:30 PM

This should be good

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#26 Doink9731

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 10:37 PM

I will pay for Test forum leaks regarding Karmafleet.

 

Just PM me on the Zulu forums.



#27 Neverlastingfear

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 10:52 PM

Is this the marker that leads to Broski Enterprise getting revived?

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#28 Dodeca Hedron

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Posted 15 January 2015 - 11:52 PM

this is the best honeypot on the citadel
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Posted 16 January 2015 - 12:01 AM

i dont even know what this is



#30 larowin

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 12:16 AM

what the fuck

after enli and the bastion nothing would surprise me about goon 2015, but still

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 12:25 AM

after enli and the bastion nothing would surprise me about goon 2015, but still

okay you might have a point
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#32 Talbrys Narentyr

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 01:12 AM

I think TEST is taking the "we'll win" approach

 

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It's ok, goons will pull the "not winning fast enough" card.


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#33 Daruna

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 10:20 AM

oh my dog


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#34 Weedlord BonerHitler

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 05:02 PM

Worse than PBLRD and the Cultural Revolution



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Posted 16 January 2015 - 05:04 PM

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why do the good die young?


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#36 ocrumsprug

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 06:26 PM

Wow 9 minutes.


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Posted 16 January 2015 - 06:29 PM

Also thank god someone is there to make sure the newbies aren't getting played for fools.


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#38 Weedlord BonerHitler

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 06:32 PM

Wow 9 minutes.

 

We're all still watching and waiting for prencleeve

 

pretty sure it'll happen within a day or so



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Posted 16 January 2015 - 06:40 PM

Blawrf said I could be the CIO

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 07:13 PM

http://www.reddit.co...c_contest_2015/



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Posted 16 January 2015 - 07:27 PM

I would like to register a complaint that this topic made me gaze upon the SA Eve thread. Please send compensation forthwith.


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Posted 16 January 2015 - 08:01 PM

I would like to register a complaint that this topic made me gaze upon the SA Eve thread. Please send compensation forthwith.


How's it going over there? Staying classy?

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#43 ocrumsprug

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Posted 16 January 2015 - 09:37 PM

Neutral to positive really, which just underscores the silliness of the whole thing.

 

e: To be fair, I skipped to the end because fuck reading that thread.


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Posted 17 January 2015 - 12:12 AM

You didn't miss much - they've pretty much been talking about wh fittings for about 30 pages.

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Posted 17 January 2015 - 12:23 AM

How is ol reeaver fleet ?

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Posted 17 January 2015 - 12:51 AM

that doesn't exist

 

but when it does it shoots structures in subcaps


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Posted 17 January 2015 - 06:52 PM

that doesn't exist

 

but when it does it shoots structures in subcaps

 

Better than a 6 hour move op  :shepicide:



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Posted 17 January 2015 - 06:55 PM

Better than a 6 hour move op :shepicide:


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Posted 17 January 2015 - 07:32 PM

both are equally shit in different ways


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[23:24:58] Livonian: this is what zulu has become
[23:25:08] Livonian: a wasteland of unironic edgy atheists

[23:25:16] Livonian: and thin skinned 4channers crying about kicks



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