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#99 Wentworth III

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 10:26 PM

I don't think that's besmirching m8, just pointing out that this needs more users to be kugu incarnate.

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 10:27 PM

i am the quality user


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 10:48 PM

This owns

 

The fine print at the bottom is the piece de resistance.


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 11:13 PM

The fine print at the bottom is the piece de resistance.


Yea I just read that.

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 04:22 AM

(7:27:33 PM) directorbot: JUSTICE FOR RAYONAR: When we fuck up, we make it good. Within this last hour a new defector has confirmed that Rayonar was, in fact, innocent. While the evidence we had two days ago made him appear unassailably guilty, this new information has completely exonerated him. We have apologized to him as well as SMA leadership and are transferring him a new Avatar, and welcome him back with open arms.

We don't like ratfucking one of our own based on bad intel. The metagame is ugly and shit happens; in this case we could have tried to be ~prideful~ and act like he was guilty, cover it over, and hope it went away. But he's an innocent man, a loyal fleet commander, and a good dude, and it's on us to make things right - so: formal apologies, his position restored, and making him whole with a new Titan - even after I just wrote a war update insisting that we'd be proven right, we've now been proven wrong, and it's best to own up cleanly.

The real story of the burn was that one of our command-level agents heard a BL leader say "shit, one of our agents burned himself on comms" the moment after Rayonar keyed up mistakenly from his Logi. This had nothing to do with IP data, Digi hiding in bushes, or the like. We now know that there was another BL agent online at the time and that the BL leader mistakenly thought that agent had burned himself when Rayonar keyed up, and now we have the evidence to prove this theory.

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 04:23 AM

Quality comedy coming from the CFC and their self-preservation paranoia.


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Posted 28 November 2014 - 05:13 AM

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 05:14 AM

All ten of us here at Zulu.org are laughing at you Mittani

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 05:18 AM

This is the kind of thing that makes me wonder how anyone can actually enjoy being part of one of these organizations. Like fuck up once and you have 10000 nerds breathing down your neck, looking up your shit irl and immediately turn on you, making up shit to justify it the whole way.

Why would you want to play in such an environment? Seriously CFC posters (all 0 of you) please respond.

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 07:04 AM

guessing it's cause the promise of a "community" is strong enough and most of the people in goonfleet are too dumb/lazy/"loyal" to really be at risk of being in that situation. "it could never happen to me" kind of thing



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Posted 28 November 2014 - 07:18 AM

I thought they couldn't tell us without comprising their spy IT infrastructure

 

One way or another, we are being lied to by the GOON



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Posted 28 November 2014 - 09:04 AM

Next up that guy takes his apology and avatar and apps to PL



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Posted 28 November 2014 - 09:20 AM

RKK likes to eat up shit, maybe they'll accept him.


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Posted 28 November 2014 - 10:22 AM

in case anyone was wondering here's the cut-out part of the update

 

 

 

Agitprop Overdrive: To Kill An Avatar
 
As we'll see in a moment, the Fountain front is the real strategic issue the CFC is facing, yet if you look at the propaganda outlets favored by our foes you'd be convinced that Eve Online revolves around Black Legion. Many of our former TEST foes ended up in Black Legion, and they similarly believe that wars are won and lost by who can run a better upvote brigade on r/Eve.
 
We are currently seeing a reprise of the exact same episode that took place at the outset of the Fountain War when the GIA hunted down and executed the Leviathan pilot of Manfred Sidious: a massive campaign to 'prove' the innocence, mock the CFC for 'blowing up their own titan', demand evidence and a fair trial - as if a spacewar is some kind of public inquest. This is the problem with a public execution of a hostile agent or - worse - a traitor; every spy we remove is always a victim and a martyr and completely innocent, because we cannot ever reveal our methods or the smoking gun by which we execute Order 66. Like with Manny's Leviathan, it was only after many months and a victorious spacewar that our foes admitted the truth of that Titan kill.
 
Even though the leadership of SMA found the evidence presented in confidence to be thoroughly convincing as to Rayonar's guilt, we do not do something like this lightly given the sheer amount of no-win PR blowback from it. Consider: if we lay out our ~evidence~ in public we play into the foe's hands and expose our agents and methods; if we say nothing they can fanfic up whatever ridiculous conspiracy they desire to fling at us (currently about Digi stalking people's houses, even though the damning evidence was presented by human agents and had nothing to do with Digi or forensics). Ultimately, as with Manny, time will prove our victorious truth.
 
The real reason Black Legion is in agitprop overdrive is that big dogs don't need to bark; NCdot is quietly and without a bunch of Reddit/EN24 sperg putting serious pressure on us in the Fountain front, while Black Legion is getting chased around by DBRB and Laz, camped into their station when we feel like it, and unable to accomplish anything besides upvoting 'digi is at your house' in hopes that we'll stop kicking them in the face.

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 10:27 AM

hilariously enough the shitpost written by the sma retard where he claims to have seen "irrefutable IP and IT evidence" that he wasn't able to share is still up, whereas mittani literally explains that it wasn't anything to do with that

 

so that dude was lying through his teeth trying his hardest to sell a shit sandwich rofl


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Posted 28 November 2014 - 12:36 PM

Surely you aren't surprised a CFC pet would value pleasing the master over taking care of their own members.


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Posted 28 November 2014 - 01:53 PM

I gotta say, as hilarious as this Titan shit is, r/eve is fucking dogshit levels of awful the past few days.

It's a shame because it was in such top from after the trailer and the noob rush. But hey, CFC has gotten some really bad publicity and BNI is up literally 1000 fresh faced retards, so hooray eve.

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 02:57 PM

doing their best to trivialise and deflect from the digi situation as usual i see


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Posted 28 November 2014 - 03:24 PM

I gotta say, as hilarious as this Titan shit is, r/eve is fucking dogshit levels of awful the past few days.

It's a shame because it was in such top from after the trailer and the noob rush. But hey, CFC has gotten some really bad publicity and BNI is up literally 1000 fresh faced retards, so hooray eve.


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Posted 28 November 2014 - 03:40 PM

This titian hilarity is the kind of stuff that keeps me interested in this so hilarious. Goon is usually so careful with cultivating their public image; it's weird they let this blow up in their face and then doubled down on it before backing off.

Also lol at "we got new info from a secret defector."

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 03:43 PM

doing their best to trivialise and deflect from the digi situation as usual i see

 

its the only smart thing to do

 

agree that /r/eve is totally shit but there's no other option (other than these forums right here)


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#120 Talbrys Narentyr

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 03:56 PM

I have trouble with the reddit layout.  Too disorganized, have to scroll through too many threads I'm not interested in.


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Posted 28 November 2014 - 06:58 PM

yeah. kugu really benefitted from focused threads and moderators. reddit encourages far too many tangents.



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Posted 28 November 2014 - 07:03 PM

its the only smart thing to do

 

agree that /r/eve is totally shit but there's no other option (other than these forums right here)

 

zugu can live up to the dream, we just need jeff/grath/manny/vee/boat/piggle/etc to post.


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Posted 28 November 2014 - 07:43 PM

zugu can live up to the dream, we just need jeff/grath/manny/vee/boat/piggle/etc to post.

 

jeff refuses

 

elise doesn't give a heck

 

grath is done with anything -gu

 

manny doesn't post much to begin with

 

fuck goons fuck goons fuck goons


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Posted 28 November 2014 - 08:58 PM

Fresh outta hecks.


In other news CFC brought downa thousand nerds and a ton of supers to save fountain. I doubt n3 will press too hard til they move their supers back north, but the more important news is the new dynamic. With BL fuxxing around in venal and now tri poking vale the CFC is forced to drag around 1k dudes slow boating around between three different fronts, all very far apart to put out whatever fire has come up. Either that or deploy separately, which we saw in the earlier fountain fights this last week, and get farmed for kills.


I don't think it's viable for very long. At the very least they'll have to shrink their borders drastically, at most the weaker alliances (everyone except g00ns) will fall off.

Whatever happens #FUCKgoons4life

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 10:26 PM

tfw no more kugu


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 01:17 AM

This is the kind of thing that makes me wonder how anyone can actually enjoy being part of one of these organizations. Like fuck up once and you have 10000 nerds breathing down your neck, looking up your shit irl and immediately turn on you, making up shit to justify it the whole way.

Why would you want to play in such an environment? Seriously CFC posters (all 0 of you) please respond.


I'm in the CFC and that shit doesn't bother me. One of the problems of having 36,000 people in your coalition is the fact that you have a ton of spies, which means you have to try and catch spies. When you try and catch spies you'll get false positives.

If that shit happened to me I'd be pretty pissed but I would probably just go and join some other alliance I have friends in, or just stop playing, it's only a game.

Considering how off putting some gaming communities are in general this is just one side of EVE that is pretty shitty but won't be going anywhere.

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 01:20 AM

I think headshotting the titan was a bit unwise though. I think they got cocky after getting Manny's titan spy.

You see an alliance that executes 100 titan spies and they are all guilty is efficient. An alliance that only gets it right half the time is not an alliance in which you want to fly a titan.

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 06:46 AM

Fresh outta hecks.


In other news CFC brought downa thousand nerds and a ton of supers to save fountain. I doubt n3 will press too hard til they move their supers back north, but the more important news is the new dynamic. With BL fuxxing around in venal and now tri poking vale the CFC is forced to drag around 1k dudes slow boating around between three different fronts, all very far apart to put out whatever fire has come up. Either that or deploy separately, which we saw in the earlier fountain fights this last week, and get farmed for kills.


I don't think it's viable for very long. At the very least they'll have to shrink their borders drastically, at most the weaker alliances (everyone except g00ns) will fall off.

Whatever happens #FUCKgoons4life


Or they'll figure out how to pay someone to go away. I don't see anything breaking up the CFC. Goons need their meat shield and the pets know it's curtains if they get put out in the cold.

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 10:28 AM

I think headshotting the titan was a bit unwise though. I think they got cocky after getting Manny's titan spy.

You see an alliance that executes 100 titan spies and they are all guilty is efficient. An alliance that only gets it right half the time is not an alliance in which you want to fly a titan.

 

"manny's" titan


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 12:55 PM

"manny's" titan

 

'"manny's"' "titan"


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 12:58 PM

"manny's" titan


I thought he owned up to it at some point?

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 01:03 PM

I thought he owned up to it at some point?

 

Yeah my understanding is he owned up after Digi cyber stalked him 


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 01:04 PM

see? crime DOES pay


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 01:18 PM

You don't have to be an internet stalker to catch spies, but it helps!


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 01:21 PM

However shit and creepy Digi doxxing Manny was he could have avoided it by him and others in PL not goading the CFC's pet stalker. I don't get involved in spying because I don't want to give someone a reason to try and figure out who I am, and if I was genuinely caught I wouldn't want to provoke the weird stalker guy who caught me into proving he knows who I am.

 

Not saying it's an excuse but everyone knows Digi is weird.


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 01:37 PM

However shit and creepy Digi doxxing Manny was he could have avoided it by him and others in PL not goading the CFC's pet stalker.

 

:siren: victim blaming :siren:


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 02:34 PM

Kitchner stop triggering me.


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 02:41 PM

GodDAMB this thread
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 02:55 PM

However shit and creepy Digi doxxing Manny was he could have avoided it by him and others in PL not goading the CFC's pet stalker. I don't get involved in spying because I don't want to give someone a reason to try and figure out who I am, and if I was genuinely caught I wouldn't want to provoke the weird stalker guy who caught me into proving he knows who I am.

Not saying it's an excuse but everyone knows Digi is weird.


Yea but what was she WEARING when she was 'raped'????

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:44 PM

Yeah that's not what I'm saying.

 

I'm saying that, for example, next week when I'm in Mexico if I get robbed because I walk around with my rolex on display, in a suit, with tons of cash in my wallet in an area of the city that isn't very safe before jumping into an unmarked taxi, sure it's wrong for someone to rob me but I should also have taken precautions.

 

FYI I don't think for example someone going to a club in a miniskirt should assume she's going to get raped and I don't think being a creep and doxxing people to Prove You Were Right is a good thing. 


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:52 PM

its the only smart thing to do

 

agree that /r/eve is totally shit but there's no other option (other than these forums right here)

 

What if we make a 4chan alliance?


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:52 PM

It's never happened before right???


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 04:06 PM

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 03:35 AM

However shit and creepy Digi doxxing Manny was he could have avoided it by him and others in PL not goading the CFC's pet stalker. I don't get involved in spying because I don't want to give someone a reason to try and figure out who I am, and if I was genuinely caught I wouldn't want to provoke the weird stalker guy who caught me into proving he knows who I am.
 
Not saying it's an excuse but everyone knows Digi is weird.

 
Would you also say a rape victim is to blame for their outfit?
 
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Yeah that's not what I'm saying.
 
I'm saying that, for example, next week when I'm in Mexico if I get robbed because I walk around with my rolex on display, in a suit, with tons of cash in my wallet in an area of the city that isn't very safe before jumping into an unmarked taxi, sure it's wrong for someone to rob me but I should also have taken precautions.
 
FYI I don't think for example someone going to a club in a miniskirt should assume she's going to get raped and I don't think being a creep and doxxing people to Prove You Were Right is a good thing.

So can you explain what the rationale is, under this premise what you think the people who had it coming could have done to protect themselves?

(1:23:19 PM) the_mittani: I like James 315‚ I dislike Erоtica 1
(1:23:20 PM) the_mittani: heh
(1:23:39 PM) the_mittani: alsо James is an incredibly gifted writer, if long-winded
(1:39:53 PM) the_mittani: he's a nutcase and a scammer irl, i believe
(1:40:09 PM) the_mittani: i sicced digi on him, and iirc he found some evidence of getting into trouble legally for fraud/rl scams

(5:55:35 PM) angry_mustache: how he got the IP adress is pretty "shady" as well
(5:55:45 PM) angry_mustache: there was a bug in the skype architecture
(5:56:04 PM) angry_mustache: that there was a period when you could get the connecting IP of a skype account by querying the servers with the username
(5:56:27 PM) angry_mustache: digi got manny's skype ID, since that's public with anyone who has manny on skype
(5:56:32 PM) angry_mustache: and queried the server
(5:56:45 PM) angry_mustache: that bug has since been patched by microsfot

I mean, according to you both Erotica1 and Manny should have known better to protect themselves from the whole "prying into their personal lives over a video game" so what would you suggest they do?

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:26 AM

Not play a video game with a bunch of paranoid schizophrenics

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 04:31 AM

CFC are creepers

 

and sticking it up for digi LOL


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 05:41 AM

 
Would you also say a rape victim is to blame for their outfit?
 
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 So can you explain what the rationale is, under this premise what you think the people who had it coming could have done to protect themselves?

(1:23:19 PM) the_mittani: I like James 315‚ I dislike Erоtica 1
(1:23:20 PM) the_mittani: heh
(1:23:39 PM) the_mittani: alsо James is an incredibly gifted writer, if long-winded
(1:39:53 PM) the_mittani: he's a nutcase and a scammer irl, i believe
(1:40:09 PM) the_mittani: i sicced digi on him, and iirc he found some evidence of getting into trouble legally for fraud/rl scams

(5:55:35 PM) angry_mustache: how he got the IP adress is pretty "shady" as well
(5:55:45 PM) angry_mustache: there was a bug in the skype architecture
(5:56:04 PM) angry_mustache: that there was a period when you could get the connecting IP of a skype account by querying the servers with the username
(5:56:27 PM) angry_mustache: digi got manny's skype ID, since that's public with anyone who has manny on skype
(5:56:32 PM) angry_mustache: and queried the server
(5:56:45 PM) angry_mustache: that bug has since been patched by microsfot

I mean, according to you both Erotica1 and Manny should have known better to protect themselves from the whole "prying into their personal lives over a video game" so what would you suggest they do?

 

don't use skype i guess :^)))))))))))

 

don't use anything that might in any way possibly have a security hole that can be exploited :^)))))))))

 

fuck digi and anyone who supports or condones him


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